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House of Lynn

The Widney / Udny Family of Scotland and Ireland

Copyright 2014
Loretta Lynn Layman, Author of "Barony of Lynn", The Scottish Genealogist,

Vol. LVII No. 1, The Scottish Genealogy Society, Edinburgh (March 2010)
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ynneage @ h-o-l.com

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Genealogy of the Widney / Udny Family of Scotland and Ireland

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Colonel Widney and the Family in Ireland
Through the End of the Eighteenth Century

Including news of the Paymaster's Account Book of the Battle of the Boyne

Note Also:
A photocopy of a document previously described as a 1744 lease has been acquired and examined
by this author (on 6 July 2014) and discovered to be a 1745 "memorial" of a much older deed which,
in fact, was dated 1724.  The handwriting on the 1745 memorial is easily readable.

Copyright 2014
Loretta Lynn Layman, Author of "Barony of Lynn", The Scottish Genealogist,

Vol. LVII No. 1, The Scottish Genealogy Society, Edinburgh (March 2010)
L
ynneage @ h-o-l.com

Background

       Chronology

Observations

Conclusion

Map and Geographical Notes

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Background

Between the years 1784 and 1788, two related families left Ulster, Ireland for Franklin County, Pennsylvania.  They were the family of James Widney and Ann Erwin and the family of Sarah Widney and Hugh Linn.  James and Sarah were brother and sister.  In the mid to late 19th century, various bits of the history of these two families were dictated to Dr. George Wilds Linn by three of his elders: (1) his paternal grandfather, Hugh Linn II, who was three years old when he arrived in Pennsylvania with his parents; (2) his paternal grandmother, Ann (Widney) Linn, granddaughter of James and Ann (Erwin) Widney and wife of Hugh Linn II; and (3) his aunt Jane Widney, daughter of James and Ann.  Based on the memories of these elders, the origin of the Widneys in Ireland was described by Dr. Linn as follows ...

 

"The Widneys were descended from a Colonel Widney, an officer in the army of William the Prince of Orange of Holland.  He accompanied the Prince to England in the year 1688, and in the following year was with the army under the Duke of Schomberg in the campaign against King James II.  He was at the battle of the Boyne, July 11th, 1690, and subsequently received from the crown for his services a considerable estate in County Tyrone, which was handed down to his descendants."

A History of a Fragment of the Clan Linn, Dr. George Wilds Linn (1905), pp. 22-23

 

Descendants of the Linn and Widney families are far more fortunate than many in search of ancestral origins.  It is rare to have someone so close to an immigrant ancestor who was interested and diligent enough to preserve for posterity the knowledge and recollections of their antecedents.  For that, we owe a large debt of gratitude to Dr. Linn.

At least two questions arise from the above account.  First, did Dr. Linn's elders tell him specifically that Colonel Widney had come to Ireland from Holland [the Netherlands], or simply that he had fought for William of Orange at the Boyne, from which Dr. Linn then inferred the former?  This question, unfortunately, cannot now be answered.  We would be remiss, however, if we did not consider certain historical data of which Dr. Linn likely was unaware.  Not least is the fact that the armies of William of Orange at the Boyne included not only his own Dutch Army but also regiments from Scotland, Ireland (including Ulster Scots), England, France, and Denmark.

http://www.keepmilitarymuseum.org/boyne.php?&dx=1&ob=3&rpn=boyne&sid=2cf51d5abc93002d7b3807427eed2b49

The second question presented by Dr. Linn's account is this: does there exist any documentation and confirmation of any of its parts?  In order to discover the answer to this question, it is necessary to recognize other spellings of the family name.  As cautioned elsewhere, a general lack of consistency in the spelling of surnames existed throughout the English-speaking world, even into the nineteenth century.  Thus, as recognized by Widney descendants, the Widney surname is sometimes written Woodnay or Woodney.  As will be seen, the interchangeability of Widney, Woodnay, and Woodney is borne out in Irish records.

However, the origin of the name Widney is even older and reveals an older spelling.  One 1875 historical account describes the parish of Udny in Aberdeenshire, Scotland:

"The name has been spelled Widney and Uldney, and it derives its name from the barony and family of Udny of Udny, who have possessed the estate for several generations ..."

The earliest the family is found in extant records of Aberdeenshire is 1 October 1498, when William Udny was listed in grants of friars' lands of Kintore.

New History of Aberdeenshire, Part II, Alexander Smith, Ed. (1875)

Fasti Academiae Mariscallanae Aberdonensis (Selections from the Records of the Marischal College and University) MDXCIII-MDCCCLX, Vol. I, Comp. James Fowler Kellas Johnstone, Edit. Peter John Anderson, M.A., LL.B., Aberdeen (1889), p. 95: fn *

Widney in fact is the phonetic spelling of Udny.  Native Scottish folk singer Jock Duncan has this to say in reference to a song about the Aberdeenshire town of Udny on his CD "Ye Shine Whar Ye Stan!":

"I've heard many versions o it - an tunes an aa, fen I wis young. Widney wis the pronunciation. Never naebody heard o Udny: 'It's Widney boy - are ye gaun doun tae Widney the nicht?'"

http://www.springthyme.co.uk/1039/ - Find "8: Udny" on the page and see the comment by "Jock".

Clearly, Widney is one of the variant forms of the Scottish name Udny.  Is there anyone of the name Udny with connections to both Ireland and the Netherlands?  As reported by Rev. George Hill in his 1877 history of the plantation of Ulster (and outlined below), one man named Udney acquired property in Ireland in the early seventeenth century, but in County Cavan rather than Tyrone.  As will be seen, this man also supported the Dutch, although a generation or two earlier than the Battle of the Boyne.  These facts, of course, do not preclude the existence of a Colonel Widney fighting at the Boyne.

An examination of all available records is necessary in any case.  Here, then, is a chronology, with sources, of the family of Widney/Woodney/Udny.  It begins with a man from Scotland who fought for Holland and ended up in Ireland.

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Chronology

Chronology

   

1593

On 18 September, Olipher [Oliver] Udny was named in a complaint concerning a house in connection with Marischal College and University of Aberdeen, Scotland.

Fasti Academiae Mariscallanae Aberdonensis (Selections from the Records of the Marischal College and University) MDXCIII-MDCCCLX, Vol. I, Comp. James Fowler Kellas Johnstone, Edit. Peter John Anderson, M.A., LL.B., Aberdeen (1889), p. 95: fn **

Fasti Academiae Mariscallanae Aberdonensis      Fasti Academiae Marischal

1596

On 13 January, Oliver Udnie, Burgess of Aberdeen, Scotland, served on a jury of inquest, as recorded in the Sheriff Court Diet Books, Vol. V.

Records of the Sheriff Court of Aberdeenshire, Vol. I, Records Prior to 1600, David Littlejohn, LL.D., Ed., Aberdeen (1904), p. 345

Records Sheriff Court of Aberdeen      Records Sheriff Court of Aberdeenshire

1607-
1610

Oliver Udny/Wodney served as Captain of a company in the Scots Brigade in the service of the United Netherlands, as follows:

      On 16 May 1607, Oliver Udny took oath as captain of the company previously
      commanded by Colonel Brog.
      In 1608, Oliver Wodney was paid £1,290 as captain of a company of 94 men.
 
      In 1609, Oliver Wodney was paid £1,059 as captain of a company of 70 men. 
      In 1610, Oliver Wodney again was paid £1,059 as captain of a company of 70 men. 
      On 23 October 1610, Captain Udny was succeeded by an officer named Ramsay.

The Brigade account regrettably does not include any reassignment, discharge, or other record of any kind for Oliver Udny/Wodney.  However, the editor of the 1899 history of the Scots Brigade in the service of Holland noted that Oliver was "[p]robably a member of the ancient family of Udny of Udny in Aberdeenshire". 

Papers Illustrating the History of the Scots Brigade in the Service of the United Netherlands 1572-1782, Vol. I 1572-1697, Ed. James Ferguson, Edinburgh (1899), pp. 72, 74, 227

Scots Brigade     Scots Brigade     Scots Brigade     Scots Brigade

It is certain that Oliver was Scottish and that he was in service to the Netherlands.  However ...

1621

On 1 April, Oliver Udny was leased part of the townland of Cran1 in the manor of Kilcloghan, County Cavan, Ireland.  This was during the first plantation of Ulster, which included large numbers of Scots settlers, many of whom had served the Crown in the military.  Kilcloghan had been granted to the Scotsman John Hamilton, Esq., whose lessees were described in Pynnar's 1619  survey of the plantation as "of Brittish birth and descent", a term that included Scottish, English, and Welsh.  Cavan shares part of its northern border with County Monaghan, which Dr. Linn reported as the home of Mary Wilson, mother of James Widney and Sarah Widney.

An Historical Account of the Plantation of Ulster at the Commencement of the Seventeenth Century, 1608-1620, Rev. George Hill, Belfast (1877), pp. 453-54

Plantation of Ulster     Plantation of Ulster Page 453     Page 454 Plantation of Ulster

1630

Oliver Owdny and Nicholas Owdny both were listed on this year's Muster Roll as living in the barony of Tullyhunco, County Cavan, under Sir Francis Hamilton.  Not coincidentally, perhaps, one Nicholas Widney died in 1731 possessed of property in County Monaghan - see : 1731 below.

1630 Muster Roll of County Cavan, Extracts from LDS #1279327, Item 6, appearing at:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~adrian/Must1630.htm

1653

Lieutenant Woodney [first name not recorded] was among Scots Presbyterian landholders of Lecale,8 County Down who were proposed to be transplanted to Leinster and Munster in order to promote Protestantism in the south of Ireland.  There is no indication as to whether the move actually occurred.  County Down is on the eastern border of County Armagh and not far removed from Monaghan.

The Anglo-Norman Families of Lecale in the County of Down, J.W.H., Ulster Journal of Archaeology, Vol. I, Belfast (1853), p. 98

1711

William Woodnay, son of Jamie [James] Woodnay, was baptized in Upper Massereene,10 Glenavy Parish, County Antrim.  Glenavy is just inside County Antrim at the border with  County Down.

Public Records of Northern Ireland [PRONI] Ref. No. T679/1: 1707-1784 Baptism Records

1713

On 23 June, James Widney was one of four Commissioners for "a people in Trewgh [Trough], a part of the congregation of Kinaird, in the Prebry [Presbytery] of Monaghan", asking the General Synod of the Presbyterian Church of Ireland that they be erected into a new congregation separate from Kinaird.  The request was granted, and the new congregation was "... indiscriminately called Treugh or Scarnagiroch", officially named Glennan, but "also known by the name of Glasslough".2

History of Congregations of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, Rev. W. D. Killen, D.D., Belfast and Edinburgh (1886), p. 153

Title Page History Presbyterian Church in Ireland               History Presbyterian Church in Ireland Title Page

1724

James Widney the elder and James Widney the younger, "Both of Kill[y]murry in the Parish of Erigle Barony of Truegh [Trough] and County of Monaghan", were parties to a deed dated 11 May 1724 which was contingent upon the marriage of the younger James to Ann Carlile, niece of Thomas Donaldson.  In consideration of the marriage: (1) James Widney the elder gave “unto his said Son James Widney the younger as a Patramony the one Half of the town lands of Killamurry”; and (2) Thomas Donaldson agreed to pay to James the younger “as a marriage Portione the sum of Fifty Pounds Ster[ling]”   Killymurry is a townland in Monaghan, very near Emyvale; see : 1779 and 1784 below.

Registry of Deed Grantors, Book 121, p. 254, Registered No. 82844

Memorial of 1724 Deed

1724 Deed as Memorialized in 1745

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1726

Hugh Woodney in Newry Parish, County Armagh applied to register a freehold in the townland of Lisdrumliska.7  Newry Parish is divided between Armagh and DownSee : 1778 below.

County of Armagh Register of Notices of Applications to Register Freeholds, p. 69

17__

Alexander Woodney of Newry Parish married Elizabeth Carlile, who was born in 1704.

Old Families of Newry, R. S. J. Clarke, Ulster Historical Foundation, Belfast (1993), p. 20

1731

A will was recorded in Clogher Diocese for Nicholas Widney of Killymurry,4 County Monaghan.  Regrettably, Clogher and nearly all Northern Ireland wills were destroyed, and all that remains are indices.  See also : 1796 below.

PRONI Pre-1858 Wills and Administrations: Clogher Diocese Wills

1740

A will was recorded in Clogher Diocese for James Woodney of Killymurry, County Monaghan.

PRONI Pre-1858 Wills and Administrations: Clogher Diocese Wills

1740

James Wadney was a Protestant householder in Macosquin11, Barony of Coleraine, County Londonderry.

PRONI 1740 Protestant Householders

1741

A will was recorded in Derry Diocese for John Widney, yeoman, of Macosquin, County Derry/Londonderry, barony of Coleraine.

Indexes to Irish Wills, Vol. V - Derry and Raphoe, Ed. Gertrude Thrift, London (1920), p. 149

1745

Five years after the will of James Woodney of Killymury was recorded, "A Memorial of a deed bearing date the Eleventh day of May one thousand seven Hundred and twenty four", which deed is described in 1724 above, was attested to by John Erwin, one of the 1724 witnesses.  For images, see 1724 above.

Registry of Deed Grantors, Book 121, p. 254, Registered No. 82844

1754

Alexander Widney reportedly married Mary Reed in County Armagh.

[While reported as being in LDS (Mormon) records, this author has not personally seen a source for the marriage.]

1758

On 21 December, John Widney, merchant in Blackwatertown, County Armagh, was party to a 14-year lease for land, with a clause for renewal, in Blackwatertown.6

PRONI Ref. No. D526/2E/9

1761

Beginning 1 November of this year and for the term of three lives or 37 years, James Widney was leased 70 acres of Mallydermott [Mulladermot], part of the lands of Glasslough and Emy owned by the Estate of Charles Powell Lesle [Leslie] in County Monaghan.5

"The Dublin Journal", Thursday, 27 June 1861

1775

Hugh Woodney of Newry Parish, Counties Armagh and Down, signed a Protestant Dissenters Petition.

PRONI 1775 Dissenters Petitions

1778

On 30 October, Hugh Woodney of Newry Parish leased lands of Ballynacraig9 in County Down from Ross Moore of Carlingford, County Louth.

PRONI Ref. No. D4066/8

1779

Margaret Widney of Emyvale,3 County Monaghan, married William Williams in Glaslough.

The Groves, Lappan; [Monaghan County, Ireland]. An Account of a Pilgrimage Thither, John Fletcher Williams, Saint Paul (1889), pp. 25, 58

1784

James Widney of Killymurry sold his lease for lands of Killmurry, County Monaghan containing 39 acres, 3 rods, and 15 perches, to John Sparrow and William Armstrong.  The price which James received was 119£ 8sh. 9p.; and two of the witnesses to the "Indented deed of Assignment" John Wilson, gentleman, and Ann Wilson of Emyvale.  This was the very year James Widney and his wife, Ann Erwin, left Ireland for the U.S. and four years before James's sister Sarah Widney followed, along with her husband, Hugh Linn, and three of their children.  An image and a transcript of the deed of assignment are soon to be added heretoSee also : 1724, 1731, 1740, and 1745 above.

Registry of Deed Grantors, 1708-1785, Book 368, p. 65, Registered No. 246042

  1784 Widney Deed 1784 Deed as Memorialized in 1785


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1796

Alexander Widney was a flax grower in Errigal Trough,12 County Monaghan, appearing on the flax growers bounty list this year.  Errigal Trough is a civil parish in the northeast corner of County Monaghan and includes the townlands of Errigal Trough and Killymurry; see also : 1713 and 1731 above.

Flax Growers Bounty List of 1796, The Irish Linen Board

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Observations

Observations

1.

The Scottish name of Udny or Udney is pronounced and sometimes written as Widney. 

2.

Oliver Udney fought in a Scots Brigade attached to the Dutch army and appears in his Brigade history as both Udney and Wodney; this was 69 years prior to the Boyne.  He subsequently held land in County Cavan but not in County Tyrone.

3.
 

Woodney, a recognized form of the name Widney, appears in Ulster 37 years prior to the Battle of the Boyne, and as a member of the military.  This man was a Scots Presbyterian and lived at least for a time in County Down.

4.
 

Twenty-one years following the Battle of the Boyne, a Woodney child recognized by Widney researchers as a member of this family was baptized.  The Presbyterian Church baptizes infants and young children, but the Methodists do not.

5.

The Presbyterian Church in Ireland was founded in the 17th century by Scottish immigrants to Ireland* while Methodism, to which the Widneys later converted, did not arrive in Ireland until the mid-18th century**.

6.

The first surviving Ulster record in which the name is written "Widney" is dated 23 years after the Battle of the Boyne and notes that James Widney then represented the Presbytery of Monaghan, specifically the people in Trough.  According to Dr. Linn's account, County Monaghan was the home of the mother of siblings James Widney and Sarah Widney, each born 40 and 44 years, respectively, following the 1713 record.  Monaghan lies between Cavan in the South and Tyrone in the North.***

7.

The Widneys have not been found anywhere - other than in Dr. Linn's account - as having title to or possession of any property in County Tyrone.  However, one James Widney did have a half-interest in Killymurry, County Monaghan, which he sold the very year our James Widney came to the U.S.

8.

While the names Oliver and Nicholas are uncommon to Ireland, (1) the name Oliver appears in County Cavan as Oliver Udny in 1621 and as Oliver Owdny in 1630, and (2) the name Nicholas  appears in County Cavan as Nicholas Owdny in 1630 and in County Monaghan as Nicholas Widney in 1731.

9.

The 1731 Nicholas Widney and 1740 James Woodney both were designated as "of Killymurry" in their respective wills, the latter presumably being the same person as the 1724 James Widney the Elder of Killymurry, who had then deeded Killymurry to his son James Widney the younger of Killymurry.  The 1724 deed was memorialized in February 1745, by affidavit of one of the 1724 witnesses, and very probably represents the legal establishment of James the younger's title following the death of his father.  A later James Widney, born in 1753, sold Killymurry in 1784, the very year he emigrated to Pennsylvania.

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History of Congregations of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, Ibid.

http://www.irishmethodist.org/about/history.php

http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/geography/counties.html

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Conclusion

Conclusion

It is clear from the foregoing record that the name Widney/Woodney began as Udny/Udney.  Since the first occurrence of Udney in Irish records is in 1621 and the first Woodney in 1653, it is also certain that Widney ancestors were in Ireland long before the 1690 Battle of the Boyne.  That fact does not entirely negate Dr. Linn's account.  Rather, given especially the military history of the first Udney and first Woodney in Ireland, the Ulster family certainly may have produced a Colonel Widney who helped secure the victory for William of Orange in that historic conflict.

Documents and records discovered thus far further prove that the Ulster family originated specifically with Oliver Udney or Owdny of Cran in County Cavan, but formerly of Aberdeenshire, Scotland; further, that it: (1) continued with Nicholas Owdny, probably Oliver's son, in County Cavan; (2) included grandsons or other direct descendants named Nicholas Widney and James Widney in Killymurry, County Monaghan; and (3) ended with a later James Widney selling Killymurry, County Monaghan in order to emigrate to America

 Clearly, there were several Widney generations named James, the earliest being a 1713 County Monaghan Presbyterian elder.  Following 1713, all the known records of a James Widney or Woodney in County Monaghan are: (1) James Widney the Elder of Killymurry in 1724, deceased in 1740; (2) James Widney the Younger of Killymurry in 1724, the father in the 1744 lease; (3) James the son in the 1744 lease; and (4) James the 1784 seller of Killymurry (born 1753 by Dr. Linn's account).

One question remains: did the family in fact own an estate in County Tyrone?  The records discovered to date do not prove it.

   

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Geographical Notes

  Map and Geographical Notes  

1.1

Cran, leased by Oliver Udny in 1621, is a townland in County Cavan which contains 218 acres near the border with County Monaghan.  Cavan and Monaghan both are part of the historic province of Ulster.  Cran itself is only 15 miles southwest of Newry, County Down and 38 miles southwest of Killymurry, County Monaghan.  Widneys/ Woodneys were later found in both Newry and Killymurry.

Cran to MulladermotCran to Mulladermot 

2.2

Glaslough is a village in the civil parish of Errigal Trough, County Monaghan, which was both (1) an alternate name for the Presbyterian church founded there upon application of James Widney and others in 1713 and (2) the home of the man who married Margaret Widney of Emyvale in 1779.

3.3

Emyvale, the home of Margaret Widney in 1779, is a town lying three and one-half miles northwest of Glaslough and two miles south-southwest of Killymurry.

4.4

Killymurry is a townland in the civil parish of Errigal Trough containing 133 acres and lying two miles north-northeast of Emyvale and four miles north-northwest of Glaslough.  Nicholas Widney died there about 1731 and James Widney I about 1740.  Killymurry is also just one mile from the western border of County Armagh and not much farther from the southern border of County Tyrone.

5.5

Mulladermot is a townland of 119 acres, which lies a half mile north-northwest of Killymurry.  James Widney leased 70 acres of Mulladermot in 1761.

6.6

Blackwatertown is a townland in County Armagh lying 14 miles northeast of Killymurry.  John Widney leased land there in 1758. 

7.7

Lisdrumliska is a townland in County Armagh lying 32 miles southeast of Glaslough and very near the border with County Down.  It was the location of a freehold registered by Hugh Woodney in 1726.

8.8

Lecale is a barony in County Down, roughly 30 miles east-southeast of Glaslough.  It was the home of Lieutenant Woodney in 1653.

9.9

Ballynacraig is a townland in County Down, now absorbed by the present-day town of Newry and lying a few miles from Lisdrumliska.  In 1778, lands there were leased by Hugh Woodney of Newry Parish.

10.10 

Upper Massereene, where William Woodnay, son of Jamie Woodnay, was baptized in 1711, is a barony in County Antrim lying roughly fifty-eight miles northeast of Glaslough.

11.11 

Macosquin, where James Wadney was a Protestant householder in 1740 and John Widney, yeoman, died about 1741, is a village and townland in County Derry [Londonderry] lying sixty-two miles north of Glaslough.

12.12 

Errigal Trough is a townland and civil parish in the far north corner of County Monaghan.  It includes the townland of Killymurry, where Alexander Widney was a flax grower in 1796.

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Account Book of the Battle of the Boyne

Account Book of the Battle of the Boyne

Since taking her first steps on the Widney genealogical journey thirty years ago, this author has often wondered why there was no historic record documenting the troops, or at least the officers, who fought for William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne.  Surely the victorious, new King had an account of this most historic, decisive engagement of his campaign.  Sometimes, however, she despaired - thinking such record likely was destroyed in one of the many burnings in the centuries-long Irish conflict.

Then, news of a discovery in Ireland gave hope.  Amazingly, a 320-year-old account book had been sitting forgotten among other artifacts in the Belfast City Hall for at least a century and was finally found during renovations to the building.  The paymaster's account book for the Battle of the Boyne was presented to the Orange Order, which in November 2012 finished digitally photographing the entire book and was "assessing the best means of presentation" with "the intention to add to [it] the alphabetical database of surnames ..."  In March 2013, it was announced that the Orange Order's Archives would be temporarily closed to prepare for the building of an interpretive center and the creation of a new website. 

As soon as word is received as to the availability of the images and data, a notice will be added here.  Linn and Widney descendants are eager to know if Colonel Widney - by whatever spelling - appears among those men named in the Paymaster General's Account Book for the Battle of the Boyne.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8323461.stm

      http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=562709.0  

 

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For other Widney historical and genealogical information at Linkpendium, see :
http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/sur/surc-W/surc-Wid/sur-Widney/.

As with Widney/Woodney/Udney, the spellings Linn and Lynn are interchangeable, along with certain other variant spellings.   Lynn/Lynne was the earliest spelling in Ulster for Scots of the name, and descendants of Sarah Widney and Hugh Linn may be interested in a discussion of the first Ulster Scottish Lynns at "Lynns of Londonderry, Donegal, and Tyrone".

Loretta ~ 2014

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